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Limits on maps?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by evildmguy, Jul 27, 2016.

  1. evildmguy

    evildmguy New Member

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    Okay, I tried to add in tiles that I bought from Heroic Maps.

    I found that I could move the folder over into the proper <campaigns>/<campaignname>/res/flr directory and then within d20Pro, click on Judge tab and click Refresh resources.

    The first time I did this, I had several hundred, broken out by folder, in png format that were 2.7G in size.

    d20Pro never recovered. I can understand that but I had to kill it via Task Manager.

    So, converted the pngs to jpegs and that reduced it to 270M of data. While it technically worked, trying to use the new folder with cave tiles, which had around 128 tiles and was 108 M. Again, the program locked up and I couldn't use them to create a map.

    I have half of my 6G RAM remaining available. My CPU isn't being used much.

    Is this a limitation of the program? I will say that this is 3.5.7 but if the solution is just upgrade, what did people do before? It seems strange that the program can't handle it.

    edg
     
    #1 evildmguy, Jul 27, 2016
  2. Tay-Dor

    Tay-Dor Active Member

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    I currently have about 5 gigs of map tiles and resources. I haven't had it lock up. When searching for a tile, sometimes it might take 2-3 seconds after clicking the folder for the thumbnails to appear. I have found when I create a new map from a file (I draw a base map in GIMP and import it and add tiles to it) it can take up to 5 minutes for D20Pro to finish "creating" it before I can start manipulating it. I've experienced this mostly after getting my large tile pack in a few different versions.

    One tip tho, if using the same tile in multiple locations on the map, make sure to clone the tile. Seems to load faster for my players.
     
    #2 Tay-Dor, Jul 28, 2016
  3. Wesley Gorby

    Wesley Gorby Production/Community Manager
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    This sound more like a "running out of RAM" issue.. could you please post up the d20pro.log file?

    yeah, I have about 8,000 tiles alone. maybe another 6-8k character portraits.
     
    #3 Wesley Gorby, Jul 28, 2016
  4. evildmguy

    evildmguy New Member

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    It appears it is a RAM issue. Sigh. Have to wait until I get my new computer and then try again.

    Thanks!

    edg
     
    #4 evildmguy, Jul 28, 2016
  5. thorimar

    thorimar New Member

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    I have updated to the latest beta version but on the load screen it still tells me my upper memory limit is 1.78 GB. Should I be able to change that from the drop down menu? I have 12 GB on the computer, but this seems locked...
     
    #5 thorimar, Sep 28, 2016
  6. Mickey

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    You should be able to click on the "edit..." button next to the upper memory limit on the login screen, then change it there.
     
    #6 Mickey, Sep 28, 2016
  7. thorimar

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    Yep, I should be able to? It doesn't work. I had to monkey around a couple years ago with Owlbear on my heap limit, before d20Pro actually let you "go big" on maps. I have a feeling that my settings are hardwired on a stack limit now. And I can't remember where we edited the Java settings. :(
     
    #7 thorimar, Sep 28, 2016
  8. Wesley Gorby

    Wesley Gorby Production/Community Manager
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    Memory is set in one of two places dependent on how you start the application.

    Either by the memory drop down setting on the launch screen.

    d20promemory1.jpg

    or via the -xmx command line augment if you are using the batch file. In this case you would adjust the xmx amount in 512 increments or set an amount such as 1/2 your ram, so 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 etc etc...

    d20promemory2.jpg
     
    #8 Wesley Gorby, Sep 28, 2016
  9. thorimar

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    I tried editing the BAT file, went up to 4096m, and it still give the limit below.
    upload_2016-9-28_20-21-22.png

    I launched the program from the bat, jar, and application with the same limit showing up. I have 12GB on the laptop. I can't imagine why I am having this issue.
     
    #9 thorimar, Sep 28, 2016
  10. Wesley Gorby

    Wesley Gorby Production/Community Manager
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    what OS are you running?
    Do you have any other java installs or JVM running on your system?
    could you share/attach your d20pro.log file?
     
    #10 Wesley Gorby, Sep 28, 2016
  11. Wesley Gorby

    Wesley Gorby Production/Community Manager
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    it is possible it is being overridden by a OS system environment variable.
    Control Panel → System and Security → System → Advanced system settings → Environment variables.
    _JAVA_OPTIONS="-Xmx1g" [example only]
     
    #11 Wesley Gorby, Sep 28, 2016
  12. thorimar

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    Eureka!! Only one version of Java running, but your second thought above was the winner. Running Windows10, the JAVA_OPTIONS line on my advanced settings was "Xmx2g". I changed it to 4g, saved, then restarted d20Pro and now I see

    upload_2016-9-28_22-29-41.png

    Log file for reference:

    [28 Sep 2016 20:29:09,562] ERROR D20LF$Dlg | Unexpected exception
    com.mindgene.d20.common.D20LF$OOM: D20PRO has run out of available memory. Please exit D20PRO and try again with a higher memory setting.
    at com.mindgene.d20.laf.wizard.WizardWRP$CommitLogic.work(WizardWRP.java:299)
    at com.mindgene.d20.laf.BlockerControl.run(BlockerControl.java:224)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
    at com.mindgene.common.threading.SafeThread.safeRun(SafeThread.java:187)
    at com.mindgene.common.threading.SafeThread.run(SafeThread.java:195)
    Caused by: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    at com.mindgene.d20.common.util.JpegInfo.getYCCArray(AlternateJPEGEncoder.java:1334)
    at com.mindgene.d20.common.util.JpegInfo.<init>(AlternateJPEGEncoder.java:1270)
    at com.mindgene.d20.common.util.AlternateJPEGEncoder.<init>(AlternateJPEGEncoder.java:98)
    at com.mindgene.d20.common.util.AlternateJPEGEncoder.encode(AlternateJPEGEncoder.java:62)
    at com.mindgene.d20.common.util.D20ImageUtil.writeToFile(D20ImageUtil.java:114)
    at com.mindgene.d20.dm.console.mapwizard.MapWizardWRP.writeImageFile(MapWizardWRP.java:166)
    at com.mindgene.d20.dm.console.mapwizard.MapWizardWRP.commitWizard(MapWizardWRP.java:104)
    at com.mindgene.d20.laf.wizard.WizardWRP$CommitLogic.work(WizardWRP.java:285)

    Thanks so much for the assistance!
     
    #12 thorimar, Sep 28, 2016
  13. Wesley Gorby

    Wesley Gorby Production/Community Manager
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    I'd remove that environment variable altogether and then just use the applications options to set the memory variables/switches.
     
    #13 Wesley Gorby, Sep 29, 2016
  14. thorimar

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    I admit to a lack of computer savvy in this area. Was that java_option likely only associated with this program? Or some other weird artifact of the OS?
     
    #14 thorimar, Sep 30, 2016
  15. Wesley Gorby

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    would set the Java variable for all/any java applications run on the OS, there really is no need to set OS level environment variables for java. every java application has it's own requirements and thus will only be hindered by such settings, and it'll just be confusing when you are trying to use other things and those docs tell you to set some java setting to run the application, but the OS variable is overriding that setting.. as you've just seen..
     
    #15 Wesley Gorby, Sep 30, 2016
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