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Custom HP death per token

Discussion in 'Feature Requests' started by Lonewolf147, Nov 9, 2014.

  1. Lonewolf147

    Lonewolf147 Member

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    I know there are three ways to track death in the main program rules, -Ability, -Attribute, %Value. I've seen requests to be able to add a specific number too (so -17 could always be death instead of -10). I'd like to see this taken one step further and have this option available inside each token as well.

    Having it in the main program rules is great, and that would be the value used when creating new tokens. But, what about those constructs and undead who die at 0? Or some magic that let's a player go beyond the normal -10/-CON? Having the option to customize the death setting in each token would be very helpful.
     
    #1 Lonewolf147, Nov 9, 2014
  2. ChrisRevocateur

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    For undead and constructs at least, they don't have Con scores, and so die at 0 HP in the program already.

    But yes, I agree, I'd love to be able to set this per token.
     
    #2 ChrisRevocateur, Nov 9, 2014
  3. Lonewolf147

    Lonewolf147 Member

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    This works in under the Pathfinder rules, but not under the 3.5 rules. Non-CON creatures are still staggered at 0 hp and don't die until -10.
     
    #3 Lonewolf147, Nov 30, 2014
  4. edwardcd

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    Regardless of the ruleset:
    If Creature has CON as "-" (dash), the creature will die when it is reduced to 0 or fewer HP.
    If creature has CON as (any positive or neutral integer), then the creature will die based on the type of rule implemented; -Ability, -Attribute, or %Value.

    I have this Feature Request now listed as: add new rule, so there are would be four rules: -Ability, -Attribute, %Value, and -Value

    If you have another suggestion, please expand on the idea.
     
    #4 edwardcd, Dec 15, 2014
  5. ChrisRevocateur

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    No Curtis, we need to be able to set this PER TOKEN. We don't necessarily need more global options.

    What's he's saying is that when you use the -Value rule (as you do when running 3.5, say), that undead and constructs aren't dying until that -value, even though they should die at 0 HP (which only works when you use the -Ability rule).

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying though:
    "Regardless of the ruleset:
    If Creature has CON as "-" (dash), the creature will die when it is reduced to 0 or fewer HP.
    If creature has CON as (any positive or neutral integer), then the creature will die based on the type of rule implemented; -Ability, -Attribute, or %Value." sound right-ish.

    But:
    "I have this Feature Request now listed as: add new rule, so there are would be four rules: -Ability, -Attribute, %Value, and -Value" doesn't repeat that same thing you said above.
     
    #5 ChrisRevocateur, Dec 15, 2014
  6. edwardcd

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    OK, I agree. Death rules for undead and constructs should be TOKEN LEVEL.

    This is tracked as a defect, as the correct rule only applies to -Ability (and not -Value or -%Max). (DE246)
     
    #6 edwardcd, Dec 15, 2014
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