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Saving spell effects Official Players Handbook purchased

Discussion in 'D&D 5th Edition' started by Markehm, Oct 18, 2017.

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  1. Markehm

    Markehm New Member

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    Hey all

    I am loading spells into my characters from the 5E official content.

    When I test play the character in combat, there is not spell effect.

    The spell has no content to apply, whether it is damage effects or even info for the dm to create a area effect.

    No damage from magic missile for example.

    How do I set this up?
    Is the effect not already included in the Official 5E content I purchased for 300gold?

    A little frustrated over here.

    Throw me a bone please.

    Cheers
     
  2. Krilion_GD

    Krilion_GD Community Manager
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    The PHB was put out early, in order to allow people to see examples of working with the new software mechanics. It's due for an update here shortly, that will fix a lot of things and add in most if not all the spell mechanics.

    I do believe the Beta is coming out towards the end of the week, that will allow for the PHB data to be updated. I don't have an exact timeframe at this point when the PHB data update will be announced. I'll post about it as soon as I have more information.
     
  3. Markehm

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    :(
    Soooooo, why did you allow me to spend full price on an incomplete product? It's friday night my time, where is the update?
    The product has been available since August.. it is almost October... and it is still incomplete?

    You took my full money for something that has literally no value above SRD? Wheres the update? Why wasn't it advertised as incomplete?

    Where is the Monster Manual as promised?

    Seriously. Where do I get a refund?
     
  4. owlbear

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    Hello Markehm.

    We're working really hard to build out the MM and such. The PHB update with the additional, (free to purchases for the PHB), feature effects is due along side the 3.7.2 update which has been the core delay.

    We're pretty darn close to release.

    As to the SRD vs. PHB release and why did this release without the automation it was a combination of things.

    1. we were unaware of the content update bug which forced us to delay the additional product launches
    2. wotc encouraged us to release as is because it provided the same if not better options than our competitors for the same price
    3. a combination of timing, marketing and more -- we'd been approved to build and sell wotc content for months but kept getting pushed aside for other releases by other folks.

    The end result was a massively shifting release plan which cost us dearly. Originally the plan had been to release two products, the wotc requested content PHB and a rules automation add-on. When we finally got the window and no blockers preventing us from releasing, wotc also informed us that we had to charge less then we'd been planning due to their agreements with Curse. Long as we were losing the additional revenue AND having been horribly delayed, we decided that we'd provide the rules automation as a free update to everyone who purchases the PHB.

    I ask you to please bare with us just a couple more weeks, I plan to release a stable beta/release candidate for 3.7.2 next week and then launch 3.7.2 fully the week after -- so long as there are no major issues discovered.

    The PHB update will happen immediate after that. If that's not sufficient for you, you can absolutely request a refund -- just PM me or email support.

    Thanks and good gaming.
    - Owlbear
     
  5. Markehm

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    So, I will give you guys the benefit of the doubt.

    I was stuck running the first session of my campaign, adding DM damage for spell effects. It wasn't the end of the world.
    To be fair, adding the name of spells to characters was easy as there was a list to choose from. But on the other hand having to mete out damage by hand with no auto processing was disappointing for the players.

    I sincerely hope you can get this resolved in the timeline stated.

    IF not, then I will request a refund.
     
  6. Krilion_GD

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    So here it is a couple of weeks later. I gave you guys the benefit of the doubt, I've waited patiently for 19days

    There is no new release yet. I saw the beta update page and it's not done.
    Your software is non functional in the D&D 5E world.
    So I guess there is no new players handbook update yet.


    Also, in reality if we want to be a DM and have the players cast a spell and have it do ANY damage, we have to use the FLOW portion of the description of the spell and PROGRAM it ourselves.

    You said I could manually edit the handful of spells I use.....Well there is no instructions anywhere on how to use the FLOW system... it is as clear as mud.

    Finally I have a job and don't have the time to:
    write a campaign,
    be creative,
    run the campaign
    and program the software that I PURCHASED to do what it is supposed to do in the first place so I don't have to program anything.

    If I buy a playstation game or music software for my studio; it works. They don't tell me that functionality is limited, or we released it too soon or we were screwed by the company we partnered with. They release it when it is ready. And they certainly don't charge me for it and ask me to wait until they feel like fixing it.

    You guys introduced D&D 5E players handbook in JULY!! It is Nov 12.

    What a waste of money.... Your D&D 5e sales of licensed material is a scam. Plain and simple. Also you are asking for volunteers to write the instruction manual!

    Seems like all you guys know how to do is take. Take on too many projects, take too much time, take advantage of people and take their money.

    :mad:
     
  8. Krilion_GD

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    I'd beg to differ on that point, myself and many many other successfully run 5e just fine as the software stands and have very little issue doing so. We've offered suggestions and there is a large community of people here who are more than willing to help you along, myself included.

    No, as stated prior, the PHB update is awaiting the 3.7.2 update for mechanical reasons. The 3.7.1.19 RC was put out just afew days ago in preperation. Things are moving ahead as fast as humanly possible.

    This a 100% false annology. PS and Xbox constantly have bugs in their systems and software they sell, most titles are updated and continued to be worked on for a long time after their release. None of them are bug free.

    Yes, with such a small team, these things take time to do, especially with such a large undertaking.

    We sure are, many companies do. Our community is extremely knowledgeable as to how the software works, the best way to do things and how to get the software to do things we never expected it to do. Why wouldn't we be thankful for and take advantage of that knowledge base. It allows us to know what they like, what they don't like and where they want the software to go as GMs and players.

    unlike a lot of other companies, we have a very strong direct line to our user base and there is a LOT of communication between the two camps (dev & users). We've worked pretty hard to foster that. It's a pretty rare thing to find these days, where any user can directly speak to a lead code writer pretty much at any given time of day and get an answer in that same day or within minutes or hours.

    It's unfortunate this is your perception. I think you will find, that our PHB even in it's current state is directly in line with any other VTTs version of the same material. The automation is a bonus, not a requirement, none of the other VTTs offer such automation. All of that has to be done by hand.

    Again, It's unfortunate this is your perception. As I have said, there is a large community of people here who are more than happy to help you along, assist you here, on discord, on skype and many other venues. Do chats or video calls to get you where you want to be. All you have to do is ask. We can't force you to take advantage of that amazing community and wealth of knowledge.

    I'd be happy to discuss this with you directly if you like, however I'd like to do so in a live medium such as discord. It's far too easy for miscommunication and tone via msg board.
     
    #8 Krilion_GD, Nov 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM
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    and just this morning ...

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